Douglas-fir vs cedar
Douglas-fir is the framing wood; western redcedar is the siding and decking wood. Douglas-fir is about twice as hard, while the cedar is lighter, moves less and resists decay.
- Coast Douglas-fir is about 103% harder than western redcedar.
- Coast Douglas-fir is about 50% heavier than western redcedar.
- Coast Douglas-fir has about 14% more movement across a flatsawn board than western redcedar.
Each column is the species its page leads with: coast Douglas-fir for Douglas-fir, western redcedar for western red cedar.
Side by side
| Property | Douglas-fir | Western red cedar |
|---|---|---|
| Janka hardness, 12% MC | 710 lbf | 350 lbf |
| Weight, 12% MC | 33.6 lb/ft³ (538 kg/m³) | 22.4 lb/ft³ (358 kg/m³) |
| Specific gravity, 12% MC | 0.48 | 0.32 |
| Tangential shrinkage | 7.6% | 5.0% |
| Radial shrinkage | 4.8% | 2.4% |
| 12 in flatsawn board, 6% → 12% MC | 0.192 in | 0.168 in |
| 12 in quartersawn board, 6% → 12% MC | 0.119 in | 0.08 in |
| Bending strength (MOR), 12% MC | 12,400 psi | 7,500 psi |
| Stiffness (MOE), 12% MC | 1.95 million psi | 1.11 million psi |
| Crushing strength, 12% MC | 7,230 psi | 4,560 psi |
One source: USDA Forest Products Laboratory, the authority for species properties it measured
Wood Handbook Tables 5-3b, 4-3 and 13-5; weight and movement worked with its Eqs. 4-14 and 13-3. A dash means the Handbook prints no value.
What sets them apart
- Decay
- Western redcedar heartwood is very resistant to decay. The Handbook gives Douglas-fir no such rating in its description. (Wood Handbook, p. 2-11 to 2-17)
- Strength
- Douglas-fir varies widely in weight and strength; use the denser wood where strength matters. Western redcedar is light, moderately soft and low in strength as a beam or post. (Wood Handbook, p. 2-11 to 2-17)
- Uses
- Douglas-fir goes into building lumber, beams, plywood and millwork. Western redcedar goes into shingles, siding, decking, greenhouses and boats. (Wood Handbook, p. 2-11 to 2-17)
For any other pair, open each species page from the wood hub; every page uses the same layout and the same sources.